The Protestant Reformation is an interesting case in point. Quakers, shakers, etc. were all using shamanic techniques - there is some of this still going on today, snake-handling and speaking in tongues and such - to reach altered states of consciousness. Further to the anthropological point, such varieties of protestantism were, and still are, low status peasant religions. Further to the liminal chaos point, the Reformation unleashed vast bloodshed across Europe. It was Rolo who first brought this dynamic to my attention.
Once the energies are allowed in, they cannot be controlled - but, keeping them out deprives the social order of both the high as well as the low, making it rigid and closed. Surely there is some balance that can be struck?
Thinking back to the status issue, is it really true that the development is monotonically towards spiritualism being low status? Or is this an Abrahamic pathology? In the Hellenic world, the mysteries were very high status, as was the Oracle at Delphi.
Oh I really like your take on what is happening and take great comfort in your words that there are good powers at play also and it’s not all blackness and evil. I just saw a brand new statue erected in Denmark in front of former Women museum now renamed Gender museum of a naked man with all his “tackle” on display with breasts holding a nursing baby in his arms🤮. There are so many things wrong with this picture of this newly erected male statue with breasts portraying him nursing a baby, I find it quite disturbing to my “normal” sensibilities so your words bring much comfort Luc and I just happened to be reading them when my husband came across this picture and article so maybe i was meant to be given some comfort to my feelings of revulsion and despair so thank you!
I had several of those experiences, utterly inexplicable in physical terms, like household objects moving all by themselves, and microsecond flashes of the future while walking first time into places where these things would happen. I reflected on this topic today, after reading your article, and this is what dawned on me. Many years ago, a naive teenager, I and my girlfriend were somehow persuaded to participate in a ouija board seance by the mother of my girlfriend, and her friend. She wanted to talk to her deceased husband, and at the end of the process it was absolutely clear to me that something was moving my hand, invisibly, from letter to letter, at great speed, making intelligible sentences. The ‘entity’ was not interested in talking to me. It is only today that i realised how banal the conversation was, no profound insights, no wisdom, no philosophical argument, no treasure maps, just talk about some practical or personal things that in the end was of no interest to me either. In hindsight, the only interesting place is here, among the living, where meaning is created, and the realm of the dead is where meaning does not change, nothing is created, but what once was aimlessly lingers. Nevertheless, there is something there that seems to allow for shortcuts in time and space, backdoors.
It’s uncanny sometimes that your writings just seem to appear when I’m having a hard time with something and your words and insights seemingly arrive just in time to calm my angst. I think I was meant to find you on Substack, your words are powerful in helping me fight off all of the negatives no matter what topics you are discussing. It’s a gift Luc, treasure it.
"Part of the explanation surely comes down to materialist ideology: the idea that everything in the universe is ultimately reducible to dead matter. Although this has nothing to do with science ..."
I think this stems partly from the dominance, in physics, of the assumption that Space is infinitely divisible - because it means there is nowhere for the non-material to exist. However, if one assumes that the fundamental structure of Space is quantised, it becomes quite easy to envisage non-material dimensions which might readily interact with the material world.
(I wrote, a couple of years ago, about how my own attempt to explore physics from first principles led me to take seriously many of the old stories that I'd previously dismissed as myth: https://malcolmramsay.substack.com/p/meta-physics)
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This leads me back to symmetry. I don't know in a provable way whether this is a (or "the") property of reality. But if it is, it opens the door to a dynamic universe in which all "rules" are subordinate to the will of agents who struggle to either maintain the balance or subvert it.
In either case, it seems likely that some of us would experience phenomena that doesn’t align with the typical rules of the game that the mean of the bell curve recognizes as "reality." The problem then becomes something like, "Who is crazy and who can see?" A very thorny problem, and maybe a reason that *some* intrepid people should investigate the unusual. But I agree that, if such a category exists, it's members should be careful beyond the usual definition of "careful."
Great essay! I suppose if the powers that be are more interested in maintaining control than they are in helping those they govern to lead better lives, then they would feel threatened by supernatural forces, as they are unable to understand or control them. What is truly bizarre is seeing the agents of chaos (Marxcissists) rejecting the supernatural as well; perhaps they wish to deny the existence of demons because they do not want to acknowledge, even to themselves, that demons are the ones actually leading the Marxcissist movement?
I encourage you to read Eliphas Levi, Doctrine and Ritual of High Magic, translated by Greer and Mikituk. Greer is doing a chapter a month review, we are just now getting into the ritual of it.
It is well known in the magical community, some of the most effective practitioners are uneducated rural folk. Too much modern intellect can get in the way. But it takes intellect to be a true adept. Either way it pays to be intentional about it, lest one get drawn in unknowingly to darker, mass-movement energies.
Luc! The Gospel today is the story of the disciples on the road to Emmaus. You and Jesus are on the same wavelength today. He comes across as frustrate d with folks whose minds are not sufficiently open to what He did.
The Protestant Reformation is an interesting case in point. Quakers, shakers, etc. were all using shamanic techniques - there is some of this still going on today, snake-handling and speaking in tongues and such - to reach altered states of consciousness. Further to the anthropological point, such varieties of protestantism were, and still are, low status peasant religions. Further to the liminal chaos point, the Reformation unleashed vast bloodshed across Europe. It was Rolo who first brought this dynamic to my attention.
Once the energies are allowed in, they cannot be controlled - but, keeping them out deprives the social order of both the high as well as the low, making it rigid and closed. Surely there is some balance that can be struck?
Thinking back to the status issue, is it really true that the development is monotonically towards spiritualism being low status? Or is this an Abrahamic pathology? In the Hellenic world, the mysteries were very high status, as was the Oracle at Delphi.
Oh I really like your take on what is happening and take great comfort in your words that there are good powers at play also and it’s not all blackness and evil. I just saw a brand new statue erected in Denmark in front of former Women museum now renamed Gender museum of a naked man with all his “tackle” on display with breasts holding a nursing baby in his arms🤮. There are so many things wrong with this picture of this newly erected male statue with breasts portraying him nursing a baby, I find it quite disturbing to my “normal” sensibilities so your words bring much comfort Luc and I just happened to be reading them when my husband came across this picture and article so maybe i was meant to be given some comfort to my feelings of revulsion and despair so thank you!
I had several of those experiences, utterly inexplicable in physical terms, like household objects moving all by themselves, and microsecond flashes of the future while walking first time into places where these things would happen. I reflected on this topic today, after reading your article, and this is what dawned on me. Many years ago, a naive teenager, I and my girlfriend were somehow persuaded to participate in a ouija board seance by the mother of my girlfriend, and her friend. She wanted to talk to her deceased husband, and at the end of the process it was absolutely clear to me that something was moving my hand, invisibly, from letter to letter, at great speed, making intelligible sentences. The ‘entity’ was not interested in talking to me. It is only today that i realised how banal the conversation was, no profound insights, no wisdom, no philosophical argument, no treasure maps, just talk about some practical or personal things that in the end was of no interest to me either. In hindsight, the only interesting place is here, among the living, where meaning is created, and the realm of the dead is where meaning does not change, nothing is created, but what once was aimlessly lingers. Nevertheless, there is something there that seems to allow for shortcuts in time and space, backdoors.
It’s uncanny sometimes that your writings just seem to appear when I’m having a hard time with something and your words and insights seemingly arrive just in time to calm my angst. I think I was meant to find you on Substack, your words are powerful in helping me fight off all of the negatives no matter what topics you are discussing. It’s a gift Luc, treasure it.
"Part of the explanation surely comes down to materialist ideology: the idea that everything in the universe is ultimately reducible to dead matter. Although this has nothing to do with science ..."
I think this stems partly from the dominance, in physics, of the assumption that Space is infinitely divisible - because it means there is nowhere for the non-material to exist. However, if one assumes that the fundamental structure of Space is quantised, it becomes quite easy to envisage non-material dimensions which might readily interact with the material world.
(I wrote, a couple of years ago, about how my own attempt to explore physics from first principles led me to take seriously many of the old stories that I'd previously dismissed as myth: https://malcolmramsay.substack.com/p/meta-physics)
This leads me back to symmetry. I don't know in a provable way whether this is a (or "the") property of reality. But if it is, it opens the door to a dynamic universe in which all "rules" are subordinate to the will of agents who struggle to either maintain the balance or subvert it.
In either case, it seems likely that some of us would experience phenomena that doesn’t align with the typical rules of the game that the mean of the bell curve recognizes as "reality." The problem then becomes something like, "Who is crazy and who can see?" A very thorny problem, and maybe a reason that *some* intrepid people should investigate the unusual. But I agree that, if such a category exists, it's members should be careful beyond the usual definition of "careful."
Great essay! I suppose if the powers that be are more interested in maintaining control than they are in helping those they govern to lead better lives, then they would feel threatened by supernatural forces, as they are unable to understand or control them. What is truly bizarre is seeing the agents of chaos (Marxcissists) rejecting the supernatural as well; perhaps they wish to deny the existence of demons because they do not want to acknowledge, even to themselves, that demons are the ones actually leading the Marxcissist movement?
I encourage you to read Eliphas Levi, Doctrine and Ritual of High Magic, translated by Greer and Mikituk. Greer is doing a chapter a month review, we are just now getting into the ritual of it.
It is well known in the magical community, some of the most effective practitioners are uneducated rural folk. Too much modern intellect can get in the way. But it takes intellect to be a true adept. Either way it pays to be intentional about it, lest one get drawn in unknowingly to darker, mass-movement energies.
I will be copying this in writing and sticking it by my vitamins where I will see it every single day! Yes I must keep the faith you are so right..
True words to live by every single day.
Thank you for this cause you absolutely made my day today.🤗
Sorry not more articulate.
Luc! The Gospel today is the story of the disciples on the road to Emmaus. You and Jesus are on the same wavelength today. He comes across as frustrate d with folks whose minds are not sufficiently open to what He did.